I've decided I need mor space, so part of the Holt has moved to http://sun-goes-down.tripod.com. I like the way they have the addresses over at Tripod. Unfortunately, we have the stupid pop-ups again <frown> I've found that if you just minimize the pop-up window, you won't be disturbed by it anymore. Please notify me if there are any dead links anywhere and I will fix them as soon as possible. Remember to update your bookmarks!